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Title: Life after DoS
Post by: joaoFCB on Mon 10.01.2011 20:11:41
So, for those who don't know, PARADOX abandonned UT3, and so did 2 of DoS servers, leaving one behind to BetoneeR, and also the clan itself.
As it comes to vCTF (european) community, it's all down to Jolt, DoS and The Last server. (for some lucky guys, there are some really cool russian servers)

Well, i personally hate Jolt maplist. MTV promised me he would put stinger mutator again... like 3 or 4 weeks ago. Not to mention the 1-map cycle, which allows everyone to vote shoebox, anarchyhalls, arena, shoebox, anarchy... and most recently: ATARI TANK edited! omg. It's a mix between Suspense and Shoebox.

DoS is laggy as shit for many guys, and the maplist is also nothing special. (i'm banned from The Last ;D)

So we Fick and some other guys think we'll try to make one last extreme effort to bring this community back a bit. Everyone has DoS and Jolt as their fav servers cuz... well, it's like routine. So what our clan was thinking is to rent a new good server and make it public. This is only the main idea, nothing's done yet, we're still making some tests, also discussing prices, and then we'll see what we can do. This communtiy also lacks of good admins, and tbh PARADOX was one of the best admins around.

I know some of you think it's a pain in the ass registering in new forums, but i'd like you to do so on Fick forum and check this thread:

http://www.plusq.de/fickforum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=169&start=0&sid=4d383ce5d1672c2a4ee6131dab89f108 (http://www.plusq.de/fickforum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=169&start=0&sid=4d383ce5d1672c2a4ee6131dab89f108)

Fick forum website is on my sign.

I'm also a bit "sacred" if i made Ltan's words not exactly wnat he wanted.. so if you have any doubt, talk to him ;D


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: l3oomer on Mon 10.01.2011 20:20:41
yes, please come by and let us know what are your opinions about this matter please. Maybe some will be really helpful, regarding server location, maplist, mutators, max number of slots, and everything else.

You'll be welcomed for sure.


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: VegasKill on Mon 10.01.2011 20:22:07
+The new Jolt server is more laggy than the last year's.
+Sorry for DOS. And Betoneer as admin now??
+TheLast server leads players to crash. The 'zombie characters' remain in game, if you rejoin, you can kill yourself. You'll end up with many 'player1204', 'player345',... in the socreboard - Kind of irritating.

I wish you success with that, the Fiick mappers surely could create a decent map list. afrodd.gif


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeadlySev on Mon 10.01.2011 20:39:46
I wish u have success...jolt became laggy and annoying! Will register tomorrow


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Klep on Mon 10.01.2011 20:43:13
I also hope that this idea will be realized. I will write more on your forum asap.


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Gabry on Mon 10.01.2011 21:25:55
yea, too bad DoS died..this started from internal/forum conflicts and some ppl leaving the clan too..anyway i would say a BIG thank to PARADOX for all what he did, especially for providing all us more servers and keep vctf community alive.. R.I.P. :-[


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Bloody.Bender on Mon 10.01.2011 21:28:40
I never liked DoS tbh. Shitty maps and lowskilled players most of the time. Jolt has better players but since its ANARCHY, FEELGOOD, SHOEBOX and other shit only, I refuse to play there. Actually I'd say safe the money and keep playing on jolt. But on the other hand I'd like to see a new server to play on, although I can't promise to support you with playing on it  ;D


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: l3oomer on Mon 10.01.2011 21:37:50
Jolt has better players but since its ANARCHY, FEELGOOD, SHOEBOX and other shit only, I refuse to play there. keep playing on jolt.

We feel the same way as you do, why would we want to keep playing on Jolt if it's only that shit map cycle
?


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DarkHunteR on Mon 10.01.2011 22:21:53
regarding server location, maplist, mutators, max number of slots, and everything else.

germany or london ,but germany is the best for me ........u know the maplist i think <3......ns\NOSTINGER...... idontcare.... :D


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeineLtan on Wed 12.01.2011 12:44:50
I'm also a bit "sacred" if i made Ltan's words not exactly wnat he wanted.. so if you have any doubt, talk to him ;D
xxxlaugh.gif As if you were trying to do things the way I want, fcb...  xxxras.gif

Just want to mention our Fick Forum is very small and inappropriate for such a major vCTF community discussion, but you're welcome anyway. :)))
(And I sort out accounts by hand, so you'd have to use your UT3 nickname)

The discussion about the future of the DoS server is still ongoing on the DoS Forums, the public server concept I suggest can be found here (http://dos.bplaced.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=777&pid=18105#pid18105).


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeadlySev on Thu 13.01.2011 20:56:16
Just an idea...bkrt have also a server (which isnt popular atm  :-[ )

maybe u can work together with them...and create more than 1 server...ofc just when they want^^


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: VegasKill on Thu 13.01.2011 21:18:41
"A good server for max 13€/month"? That would end up in a 10 slot private Fick Clan server. There are enough empty clan servers who just wait for someone to join ...save the money and cooperate with some clan like sev said.


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DEVIL_77 on Thu 13.01.2011 21:38:37
Hey Marine !!!!  xxxlaugh.gif  msn012.gif
OMG i agree with you at 100% joacfcbfgt ^^' i hate spawnskill map like Anarshit... but it's the only way to make come people on our server because it's easier to kill in this kind of map for n00b  ;D

So, we can use my server boomer, pm me here if you want to talk about that  msn012.gif
I can give power to Wojci for the server UT3 whistle2 if he wants & know how works the webadmin...


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: l3oomer on Thu 13.01.2011 22:05:05
i've used webadmin before, it's quite simple.
As for the shared server with the frenchies  msn011.gif, well i like the idea of that, because you are all skilled and anti spam map players like we are, we share same ideas and thoughts mainly, but you know eltan, he always asks for some tweaks  ;D
We'll talk about that internally very quickly i think we can give you an answer pretty soon devil.
Cya,
 keep unreal


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeadlySev on Thu 13.01.2011 22:06:47
Hurajjjjjjj!!!! Pm him boomer server has a good ping,much maps and we can make him popular! ...@Devil ofc spammaps sux but atm they are needed to get all the bobs in the server (maybe anarchy plus one more spammap would be enough and ofc some great costumemaps like andromeda or electro xD)


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: l3oomer on Thu 13.01.2011 22:10:58
all the bobs
xxxw00t.gif

Yes i've played on their server sometimes with them, and i had pretty good ping, 70 with 10+ players, nice map cycle and all. guys we can make an agreement here and save vCTF.
CAN WE GET A WOOP WOOP?  hailing.gif


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Bloody.Bender on Thu 13.01.2011 22:30:47
IP?


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeadlySev on Fri 14.01.2011 07:04:39
Check devils signature :)


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeineLtan on Fri 14.01.2011 07:55:34
@Deadly:
It's pretty much the only requirement I have: NO SPAM-ONLY MAPS.
No AnarchyHalls, no FeelGoodInc and no Shoebox. Even Skyscraper doesn't support any teamplay, but since its also so popular that would be the only exception to allow.

Making an innovative and teamplay favoring maplist, that's my goal.
Teamplay only = OK
Spam + teamplay options = OK
spam only = NO WAY

@Devil:
Sounds great your proposal! THX a lot,
wouldn't be first time Bk.rT did something great for Fick (like Zmei introduced me to SirQ for example). Last time we were training on your server there were some bad lags but if it would work as public and clan server where even our Portuguese homies can play: perfect!
I've saved your TS IP already but it says "Enter Password." Send it to me by pm or whatever and we can start to sit together.  :)))


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeineLtan on Fri 14.01.2011 08:56:52
@Deadly:
It's pretty much the only requirement I have: NO SPAM-ONLY MAPS.
No AnarchyHalls, no FeelGoodInc and no Shoebox. Even Skyscraper doesn't support much teamplay, but since its also so popular that would be the only exception to allow.

Making an innovative and teamplay favoring maplist, that's my goal.
Teamplay only = OK
Spam + teamplay options = OK
spam only = NO WAY

@Devil:
Sounds great your proposal! THX a lot,
wouldn't be first time Bk.rT did something great for Fick (like Zmei introduced me to SirQ for example). Last time we were training on your server there were some bad lags but if it would work as public and clan server where even our Portuguese homies can play: perfect!
I've saved your TS IP already but it says "Enter Password." Send it to me by pm or whatever and we can start to sit together.  :)))


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Klep on Fri 14.01.2011 12:22:00
Ye, I wanna see that, I wanna play that :) Thumbs up for new-nospam-nicemaps-cooladmins VCTF server  afrodd.gif


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DEVIL_77 on Fri 14.01.2011 18:49:53
éhéhé DeineLtan, i keep good remember with the fick with Zmei when we played at 01h00 02h00 or 03h00 in the morning lol and i don't remember something wrong so... no problem...  afrodd.gif  ;D (You will see a video next month... ^^ Wait & see)

Okay Boomer, i'm waiting for your answer  msn012.gif

I can't let my server sleeping (what do i pay each month for???!!!  msn004.gif ), so i prefer sharing it with people i like  msn012.gif
The only players banned on this server are the Terrorists team LOL  finger1  ;D

I've got some ideas  msn012.gif maybe you too, let's talk about it on TS  msn012.gif


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: l3oomer on Fri 14.01.2011 20:30:35
k, we are discussing it internally, gimme some days. i have one question for you devil:
If we agree on sharing the server for both clans and make it public, you won't pay 100% of it right?. actually we are willing to pay for it, we want to make it fair, not overcharge bkrt's on the money issue. We want it good and fair  afrodd.gif


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DEVIL_77 on Fri 14.01.2011 20:47:44
I "payed" alone this this server (Piba gave me some helpS  afrodd.gif) since i became the most powerful awesome clan leader of the BKRT ^^'
I know that it's hard to have money when i was 18 years old  msn012.gif so when i like something i don't look the $$  msn012.gif UT3 is a passion for me like the tennis for exemple  ;D


So, no problem Boomer  msn012.gif

& now we must talk about that not here for the details  ;D


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Gabry on Fri 14.01.2011 20:52:29

The only players banned on this server are the Terrorists team LOL  finger1  ;D

Lmao, and u talk about childs..? thought u were the adult people

(http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4737869/is-on-your-face.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Troll-Face)


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DEVIL_77 on Fri 14.01.2011 20:58:43
Lmao, and u talk about childs..? thought u were the adult people

(http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4737869/is-on-your-face.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Troll-Face)

I really don't care about you,

Go play with your clan
(http://www.24heures.ch/files/imagecache/468x312/story/6681567-1-pas_d_interdiction_de_chiens_dangereux.jpg)

What Goes Around... comes cround That's all...


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: VegasKill on Fri 14.01.2011 21:31:32
Me and mordsspass tried to populate your server today, but it is passworded.
+ minimum players should be set, else the game can not begin (waiting for 1 more player).


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeadlySev on Fri 14.01.2011 22:54:23
off topic: gabriy...their servers their rules ....

on topic: how much slots do u have devil?


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Gabry on Fri 14.01.2011 23:15:12
off topic: Sev, im not criticizing his "rules" im just sayin that he has a big mouth, talking much about "this is only a game" and "We havent 10 years old" (his words) and than he acts like that, 0 coherence..but im the first who dont care about u big france man  :)))

on topic: BTW DoS is still much alive, and para should not shut it down soon.. so the topic's title is little fail :/


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeadlySev on Sat 15.01.2011 00:18:59
If u dont care about it so why u have a problem with it...just accept it...


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: joaoFCB on Sat 15.01.2011 02:00:34
yeah...passworded :/


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Klep on Sat 15.01.2011 05:08:14
yeah...passworded :/

You shall not pass? I wanna pass :)


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DEVIL_77 on Sat 15.01.2011 13:44:29
oups, no pass now  whistle2
18 slots Sev, i think that it's enough for a public server  msn012.gif
Thanks to all.


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Bloody.Bender on Sat 15.01.2011 14:07:34
m4rt1ni you know which sentence would fit here?   smileyyxy.gif


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeineLtan on Tue 18.01.2011 16:03:57
Okay, with FragDevil's awesome offer and some administrative efforts from my side the BkrT server has now become the...

Public/Clan Teamplay VCTF Server (hosted by BkrT & Fick)


Quote
To easily visit the first teamplay-focused server from anywhere in game...

- Press F10

- Paste in "open 217.163.23.232"

- Press Enter

Have fun playing with us and feel welcome to participate in
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9595/vctfconceptsthread.png)
  - by registering at www.Fick-UT3.tk (http://www.Fick-UT3.tk) to give us your own suggestions (http://www.plusq.de/fickforum/viewforum.php?f=32&sid=7e121a301f6bc4593ce824235149246f)
  - or just vote at our public Server Content Surveys (http://app.requestio.com/survey/index/1403)

We're elaborating a >12 players maplist and a <12 players maplist focusing on teamplay possibilities, size equilibration and rich gameplay exerience.

We reserve sundays for training and clan matches, best day for you to have a 6 player delegation of your clan ready! Ask us spontaneously at weekends.


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: m4rt1ni on Tue 18.01.2011 16:10:37
m4rt1ni you know which sentence would fit here?   smileyyxy.gif

 ;D I think i know the answer to that question  ;D

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   ':¦¦:'
     ""


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: joaoFCB on Sun 23.01.2011 23:20:57
Fick had a clan war vs DoS tonight on the server, and it worked out pretty well for everyone (except me who kept crashing all time)
Nice ping, no major crashes, no admin bugs, etc..
and before and after the clan war, when we had like 10-12 players on, more guys started to join, so it's a good thing. whenever you want to play just join the server for some mins and see if someone else joins. i'll be doing that ;)

P.S -  thanks Klep ;D


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Bloody.Bender on Mon 24.01.2011 13:42:40
whenever you want to play just join the server for some mins and see if someone else joins. i'll be doing that ;)



IP?


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeadlySev on Mon 24.01.2011 15:16:52
du könntest ja auch mal die posts von eltan lesn


open 217.163.23.232


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: joaoFCB on Mon 24.01.2011 15:54:36
he doesn't know how to scroll-up   ::)


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: tyrwot on Mon 24.01.2011 19:09:53
off topic: Sev, im not criticizing his "rules" im just sayin that he has a big mouth, talking much about "this is only a game" and "We havent 10 years old" (his words) and than he acts like that, 0 coherence..but im the first who dont care about u big france man  :)))

off topic: when you don't like somebody, it is simpler to not speak to him than to fight everytime you are together. We have problems with your team, so you have been banned, thats not childish and not pure rage, but simply logic. But, well, that's a new begin, i'm for remove those ban, just try to not behave like assholes lol.

on topic: i think 18 slots is a good number, 2 reasons :

=>  +20 slots makes teamplay go away and spampowa live.
=>  the server is currently located at London (it is already far for some peoples), more there are players, more there are lags for everybody.

got a question about the +12/-12 maplist: what happen when there are 18 players, and -12maps list is voted?
random kick?

could be cool to try to come sunday, even if there are not clanmatch. It might be a pro-mixteam-match "rendez-vous" (to make it frenchie =) with players who are available this day, simply.

Actually, this project exist from a long time in our all head i think, so don't let it dying !

ps: its Bk.Rt and not BkrT ^^ (or i like just Bk =)

edit: how many spectators do we set?


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: joaoFCB on Mon 24.01.2011 19:17:20
i don't know what spectators are for, really. but like 4 specs could be enough, no? so some guys can join as specs while waiting to play and some others spectating just for watching the matches. 2 slots seem not enough for me..


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: tyrwot on Mon 24.01.2011 20:16:32
2 slots seem not enough for me..

I agree


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: JT-Ripper on Mon 24.01.2011 20:32:45
If you use redirect, remember to only have maps that is on the redirected folder in your maplist afrodd.gif


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: DeineLtan on Sun 20.02.2011 22:17:31
Please participate at our server concept on our forum,
I dont wanna have to discuss the same on several forums.

www.Fick-UT3.tk (http://www.Fick-UT3.tk)

but for now, I can also answer here:
got a question about the +12/-12 maplist: what happen when there are 18 players, and -12maps list is voted?
random kick?
Our server admins must exchange the maplists, you cannot vote for it.

could be cool to try to come sunday, even if there are not clanmatch. It might be a pro-mixteam-match "rendez-vous" (to make it frenchie =) with players who are available this day, simply.

Actually, this project exist from a long time in our all head i think, so don't let it dying !

Don't you let it die! :P
We had a spontaneous war VS Dark tonight, we were actually thinking you guys come to train with us for the jolt tournament! finger1

edit: how many spectators do we set?

At the moment we have set 18 player, 4 spectator slots.


Title: Re: Life after DoS
Post by: Bloody.Bender on Sun 20.02.2011 22:21:19
curious tyrwot is curious  Smiley_grin