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Title: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: Klep on Wed 19.01.2011 20:16:43
I am going to buy a new pc and I wonder which graphic card to buy. I want Gainward GeForce® GTX 480 1536MB GDDR5. Is it a good choice? Is it the best card for this price? I don't have more to spend on that. What do you think?


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: m4rt1ni on Wed 19.01.2011 20:42:27
post the rest of the config


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: DeadlySev on Wed 19.01.2011 20:48:12
and the price you expect to pay  msn012.gif


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: VegasKill on Wed 19.01.2011 20:55:21
Geforce GTX 460 has a better cost/performance relation & you can oc that card very well, if needed for games in a 2-3 years.
Or add a 2nd one for SLI when the cards get some more inexpensive, you'll easily outdo the GTX480.


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: DeadlySev on Wed 19.01.2011 22:32:40
Thats exactly what i told u on ts klep! Just dont buy the sparkle edition ( i dont have an original fan )


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: Wojci on Thu 20.01.2011 07:37:25
hey klep i got a 460gtx is workin very well and u only have to pay like 180€


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: Klep on Thu 20.01.2011 12:32:02
post the rest of the config

Mother board: ASUS P8H67-M LE Intel H67 LGA 1155
Processor: CORE I5 2500 3.3GHz LGA1155 BOX 
HD: HDD CAVIAR 1TB WD10EARS SATA II 64MB CACHE
Power supply: MODECOM HEDY 600W
Monitor: BENQ LED 24" G2420HDBL

I don't know the prices in Euro, we still have our currency in Poland - PLN. 1 Euro =  3,89 PLN. And this config has highest cost I can afford.

Hmm, yes guys, the cost/performance relation is better for GTX 460 - it is much cheaper. New graphic cards are released so quickly that maybe really there is no point for going into GTX 480.
What do you think about rest of the config?


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: DeadlySev on Thu 20.01.2011 13:07:44
Get a gtx 460 oc and spend the rest in the  the trip to the next darkmeeting :)


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: m4rt1ni on Thu 20.01.2011 14:56:47
Mother board: ASUS P8H67-M LE Intel H67 LGA 1155
Processor: CORE I5 2500 3.3GHz LGA1155 BOX 
HD: HDD CAVIAR 1TB WD10EARS SATA II 64MB CACHE
Power supply: MODECOM HEDY 600W
Monitor: BENQ LED 24" G2420HDBL

What do you think about rest of the config?

Mobo: Really a surprising choice O_o any reason in particular why you have chosen a microATX board with only 1xPCiE 16x slot and only 2xRam slots?

Processor: 2500 is ok when you don't plan any overclocking, otherwise get the 2500k

RAM: n/a?

PSU: can't really comment on this, never heard of "Modecom"

GPU: If you really have the money to spare get the 480GTX, otherwise get the 460 as Sev and Wojci suggested.


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: darkredfox on Thu 20.01.2011 23:23:53
I've listen many good things about 460 too and infact my favorite ATIAMD didn't has the better performance on UT3. So there I aggree with my mates.

The MoBo-size could be a problematic choice, I think you should choose another one. I didn't care about size, but only 2 places 4 your rigs and only 1 PEG? Check this: GigaByte GA-PH67A-UD3 or if you need a mATX take maybe this: GigaByte GA-H67MA-D2H bc it has two 16L-PEG-Slots, not only 4 gfx, but 4 a PCIe-SSD in the future...

Last but not least, the PSU I would recommend a Enermax or beQuiet. This is a critical point in the whole system and I would take a well known brand. It isn't so expensive.


greetz f0xy


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: Wojci on Fri 21.01.2011 07:37:12
GigaByte GA-PH67A-UD3


nice foxxy i have this one :D


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: DeadlySev on Fri 21.01.2011 13:43:09
beQuite ftw!


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: darkredfox on Sat 22.01.2011 14:25:48
beQuite ftw!

Ahh!, Be quiet! YOU! ;D


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: Klep on Tue 01.02.2011 17:02:55
Yeah, I got my new pc up and running.

Proc: CORE I5 2500 3,3Ghz
Board: GIGABYTE GA-H67MA-DZH Intel H6
Graphic: GeForce GTX 480
Power: Tacens Radix IV - 600W
Mem: Kingston Hyper-X 1600
Monitor: BenQ LED 24"

Now I can play :P Though I need to find a new mouse sensitivity in UT3 :)


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: assassin[be] on Wed 02.02.2011 15:31:11
Pro point about that 480(temps in °C):

(http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/263/bench/Temps.png)

You don't have to leave the room to cook something.


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: PainSavour on Wed 02.02.2011 18:47:09
The SATA 3Gbps ports on that mobo will also die within 2-3 years. Intel has admitted the fault in the SATA controller and motherboard makers have issued a recall for the faulty mobos, and new fixed mobos come in april at the earliest. Way to go Intel, only a billion dollar mistake.  afrodd.gif


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: VegasKill on Wed 02.02.2011 19:02:31
Pro point about that 480(temps in °C):

You don't have to leave the room to cook something.
GTX460 doesn't go beyond 62°, idle 22°. Need additional heating. :'(


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: assassin[be] on Wed 02.02.2011 19:13:53
The SATA 3Gbps ports on that mobo will also die within 2-3 years. Intel has admitted the fault in the SATA controller and motherboard makers have issued a recall for the faulty mobos, and new fixed mobos come in april at the earliest. Way to go Intel, only a billion dollar mistake.  afrodd.gif

Yea read about that, but they said they have money set aside in case something like this happens and have to replace a bunch of products.
This is why I'm happy to have gone with AMD xxxras.gif.

For the people wanting to know which mobo's that are:

It's the mobo's that support Sandy Bridge-processor or i3, i5, i7 core processor from the new 2000-serie from Intel. That is for both the laptops and the Mobo's(at this point I realized I have a laptop with an i3-processor *sigh*) with a 6-series chip but also mobo's with a P67- or H67-chip.

GTX460 doesn't go beyond 62°, idle 22°. Need additional heating. :'(

Maybe if you put 2 of them in SLI! afrodd.gif


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: m4rt1ni on Wed 02.02.2011 19:25:17
Yea read about that, but they said they have money set aside in case something like this happens and have to replace a bunch of products.
This is why I'm happy to have gone with AMD xxxras.gif.

Maybe if you put 2 of them in SLI! afrodd.gif

It's not only about Intel, pretty much every mobo manufacturer is affected and so are all the PC manufacturers + customers. So it kinda sucks for everyone :(


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: assassin[be] on Wed 02.02.2011 19:36:02
It's not only about Intel, pretty much every mobo manufacturer is affected and so are all the PC manufacturers + customers. So it kinda sucks for everyone :(

It consists of Intel mobo's, so it doesn't matter if you own one made by Asus or MSI or whatever more there is. If it supports Intel CPU's and it fits the following description then you are screwed:

Quote
For the people wanting to know which mobo's that are:

It's the mobo's that support Sandy Bridge-processor or i3, i5, i7 core processor from the new 2000-serie from Intel. That is for both the laptops and the Mobo's(at this point I realized I have a laptop with an i3-processor *sigh*) with a 6-series chip but also mobo's with a P67- or H67-chip.

You also have companies lika VIA(lately rarely used anymore, everyone uses either Intel or AMD) that base their chips on Intel or AMD. So be careful with that and I would recommend going for AMD pretty much now  tongue1.


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: PainSavour on Wed 02.02.2011 21:12:09
Well considering the mobo manufacturers have stopped shipping the motherboards with the faulty Sandy Bridge chipset and retailers are pulling them from their listings you can't even buy one anymore. Intel says they start manufacturing the new fixed chipsets by the end of February, but mobo manufacturers still need time after that to make the boards, so April is the earliest you can buy a new Sandy Bridge system if you don't have one already.

Intel set aside 700 million dollars for the replacement/repair but I heard they estimated it again to 1 billion dollars. Rather costly mistake to make it seems. AMD must be happy, but for consumers this isn't really a good thing. The current AMD CPUs are just way too slow compared to Sandy Bridge. They need to get Bulldozer CPUs out soon.


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: assassin[be] on Wed 02.02.2011 21:55:16
Well considering the mobo manufacturers have stopped shipping the motherboards with the faulty Sandy Bridge chipset and retailers are pulling them from their listings you can't even buy one anymore. Intel says they start manufacturing the new fixed chipsets by the end of February, but mobo manufacturers still need time after that to make the boards, so April is the earliest you can buy a new Sandy Bridge system if you don't have one already.

Intel set aside 700 million dollars for the replacement/repair but I heard they estimated it again to 1 billion dollars. Rather costly mistake to make it seems. AMD must be happy, but for consumers this isn't really a good thing. The current AMD CPUs are just way too slow compared to Sandy Bridge. They need to get Bulldozer CPUs out soon.

You say it's too slow, but you have to consider that the i7 series are not made for gamers. And if you compare price/performance you'll see that AMD comes out better that way. You may call me cheap but I prefer not to spend too much money on my hardware. Rather have some money aside for some other stuff  :))).

If you want to know, I own a Phenom II x4 965 that runs on 3,4 GHz.

Also the fact that AMD is focussing more on the mobile and laptop. With their Fusion-tech they will have a nice grip on that market for smart phones and laptops.

I haven't been paying much attention to the latest CPU's or GPU's so I dunno what's new for Intel, AMD or Nvidia.
I am noticing that they are busy releasing hexacores, which I think is too soon.
You have to consider that just now the developers are now supporting quadcores for their games.


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: m4rt1ni on Wed 02.02.2011 23:40:35
You say it's too slow, but you have to consider that the i7 series are not made for gamers. And if you compare price/performance you'll see that AMD comes out better that way. You may call me cheap but I prefer not to spend too much money on my hardware. Rather have some money aside for some other stuff  :))).


You're among the 0.00001% of PC users that know to handpick the best components, build their own rigs, know how to OC and so on...
Most of the, lets call them "casual" users, don't care about AMD - which is sad but true. Even though I have an Intel CPU I'm a big AMD fan, because lets face it, can you imagine the Intel prices if there would be no competition at all?


Intel set aside 700 million dollars for the replacement/repair but I heard they estimated it again to 1 billion dollars. Rather costly mistake to make it seems. AMD must be happy, but for consumers this isn't really a good thing.

Intel closed Q4 with a revenue of 11,5 billion and 3,4 billion in profit. AMD was in red numbers for Q2 and Q3, though they managed to close Q4 with a 1.65 billion in revenue and 0,375 b in profit for their 2010 fiscal year. So yea, no worries, Intel can get over it pretty easily :)

http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/fourth-quarter-earnings-20jan2011.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/fourth-quarter-earnings-20jan2011.aspx)


Title: Re: GeForce® GTX 480
Post by: PainSavour on Thu 03.02.2011 00:03:48
You say it's too slow, but you have to consider that the i7 series are not made for gamers. And if you compare price/performance you'll see that AMD comes out better that way. You may call me cheap but I prefer not to spend too much money on my hardware. Rather have some money aside for some other stuff  :))).

If you want to know, I own a Phenom II x4 965 that runs on 3,4 GHz.

Also the fact that AMD is focussing more on the mobile and laptop. With their Fusion-tech they will have a nice grip on that market for smart phones and laptops.

I haven't been paying much attention to the latest CPU's or GPU's so I dunno what's new for Intel, AMD or Nvidia.
I am noticing that they are busy releasing hexacores, which I think is too soon.
You have to consider that just now the developers are now supporting quadcores for their games.

While i7 might not be "made for gamers" it is faster in games that require cpu power. Now most of the graphics heavy games benefit little from more CPU horsepower, so in those cases it doesn't matter if you're using AMD or Intel CPU, as long as it's sufficiently fast, because the graphics card will be the bottleneck. But in games like GTAIV, CIV5, Total War series CPU plays a bigger part and in those games the Intel Core processors are clearly better than Phenoms. Sad but true, especially since I have a Phenom II 955.  msn012.gif

AMD might be trying to get more mobile market share, but if you look at laptop sales Intel dominates it and AMD CPUs aren't really in favor in laptops, they suck more power and give less performance. AMDs strongest suit is desktop CPUs and the hexa-cores you mention, but as you say, there's not a lot of use for six cores at the moment because of lacking software threading. AMD's hope will be in Fusion and Bulldozer, but it remains to be seen how well they end up doing. It just looks like all Bulldozer is good for is well threaded applications, but 8 cores don't do a lot of good in games at the moment.

For Intel this chipset problem is probably more of an embarrassment. They've already paid billions in the past year or so to AMD and Nvidia and I think there was some other entity too I don't care to remember right now. Obviously they have a near monopoly on the x86 market and make billions in profit every quarter regardless of paying a few fines now and then.