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« Reply #20 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:22:44 »

This was about Servers and their maps, lets keep it about that now please.

_Dark_ Forums seem to be the center of all arguments lately, it's like a hub for everything that goes wrong in UT3 world atm.
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« Reply #21 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:25:13 »

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« Reply #22 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:28:46 »

My signature is an attention.
It shows Epic something constructive about their game.
Bugs, request - anything which Epic at least should see.
Why hiding it?
The title below my name here, well, I don't think many others think differently.
Patch 2.1 was a joke.

Suspense only servers have been existing for a very long time.
I'm not the only one who wants that something will change.
Check out the other replies, most of them want a change as well.

Well, you are disagreeing with yourself.
Multiplay servers are not controlled by Epic.
There is no "Epic Suspense only server".
So Epic are not the guys who realised it.
It's a Multiplay issue and ArcAne, as an admin, could try to change something.

omg spawnkilling, omg bad server, omg teams, omg bugs
Well Chrisaw, again, don't contrive things.
The only true thing of these things could be the spawnkilling.
However, I am one of the last guys who complain while playing.

if you have so many problems with epic's servers then why not get a job there, and build the game yourself with no bugs and sort out the server structure
Give me the money and I will try my best.

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« Reply #23 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:30:14 »

Have you got nothing better to do than point out all the bad points to the game?

this is pathetic lol... epic are obviously trying but why should they patch the game 5 times for free just because you find bugs for it? and ye the 2.1 patch doesnt improve much but what do you expect lol... we havent long had 2.0 patch...

be grateful that you have a good game to play :D
« Last Edit: Fri 22.05.2009 19:35:04 by Chrisaw2008 »
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« Reply #24 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:33:05 »

lol

We all know the good points of UT3.
What do you want to hear?

UT3 is a great game with nice graphics, many maps, many possibilities, many game modes etc.
Guy, no one cares about it.
Shall I write an e-mail to Epic about the positive things of UT3?
They will just laugh about it.

Man, serious, think a little bit...
I often wrote good things, but right now I'm writing about something which I don't like.
Where is your problem?

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« Reply #25 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:36:38 »

this is a waste of my life lol

if you wish to point out every single negative piece to the game then go ahead... this thread will be locked shortly I am guessing

try and think possitively... if not, dont speak at all :D :D :D
« Last Edit: Fri 22.05.2009 19:41:40 by Chrisaw2008 »
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« Reply #26 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:43:29 »

There is no sense to point out the good things.
The players point out bad things with the wish that something will be changed.
The result will be a better game if anything will be changed.
I don't say removing the Suspense only servers will be the right turn, it's my opinion and many others agree with it.
To the bug list (you started, not me).
Tell me, if Epic would fix many of them, wouldn't you be satisfied as well?
Don't say you never faced a bug.
I never officially said in forums that UT3 is a bad and buggy game, or Epic fail etc.
My post count is 725 in Epic forums and have been there for almost one year and I'm not banned and no infractions or something.
If I only would write bad things and trying to let Epic look like bandits, then I would not be able to post there anymore.

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« Reply #27 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:48:29 »

Ok...

Well multiplay have servers with all vCTF maps... 2 of them if i remember rightly... and 3 are suspense only?... I never see any people in the multiplay voting servers for some reason... i do though see most of the suspense only servers full most of the time

so it does make sense to me why they have alot of suspense only servers... because it is popular and the other servers aren't being used :)
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« Reply #28 on: Fri 22.05.2009 19:55:51 »

Only a few Suspense fans would be enough, let's say there are 10 real Suspense fans (example).
These guys join the Suspense servers.
After this, other players are attracted because there are players on the servers.
Yes I know it may sound strange, but no one wants to join an empty server.
That means you have the choice between Suspense only and nothing.

I don't see any sense in making "- only" servers.
If there are real Suspense fans, then they can vote for the map.
I'm not that Suspense hater, once I liked it, but it becomes overplayed and the other maps go down because of it.

Another example to show it more properly:
Warfare and titan.
Many, really many players complain about the Titan mod.
They want to play on Titan free servers, but those servers are empty all the time.
Why?
Because it's enough that only a few guys join the Titan server, then all other will automatically join after, even if they hate it.

Damn, can't we just make a poll in any forums, if Suspense only servers should be shutted down or not?
There is nothing 1 opinion, if ArcAne or another admin would remove the Suspense only, of couse some guys will complain.
However, a lot of guys will be thankful because they can finally play the other maps as well.

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« Reply #29 on: Fri 22.05.2009 20:01:19 »

Arcane has just told me there are 3 Multiplay vCTF servers which have more maps than Suspense on them...

Epics midway 1/2 has all stock maps
Jolt - all stock maps
Overclock - Necro

I think suspense should only be on suspense only servers and not on epic 1/2 :D... if you played suspense only servers alot like I do, you'd actually see how many people like the servers... so I think taking them away could make slot of players stop playing ut3 :(

I personally love playing on epic 1 and jolt now because I like sand/kargo and necro... but the servers with them seem dead in the day time so I have to go to suspense only servers... I dont see adding some servers with all vCTF maps will help because there always empty in the day time :(
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« Reply #30 on: Fri 22.05.2009 20:22:01 »

The problems with those servers you mentioned:

- Epic: 32 players and Titan
- jolt: outdated (version 1.3)
- overclock: does it still exist?

Basically, the Multiplay vCTF servers seem very fine to me!
But:
Multiplay vCTF #1: Suspense only (but not mentioned in title!) - vote menu is empty
Multiplay vCTF #2: No Stranded and no Rails
Multiplay vCTF #3: Suspense only
Multiplay vCTF #4: Only Suspense, Necro and Sand - why?
Multiplay vCTF #5: Suspense only

I really don't agree with this system, at least the 1st server could have all maps, even Suspense, but please not only Suspense.

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« Reply #31 on: Fri 22.05.2009 20:35:33 »

nightmare and me aren't the best friends but i agree with him in all his points. fact is many problems we are complaining about  came with 2.0. it brought many good features: multiple ammo-pickup and so on... but also many bugs and stupid modes. if i look back i would say: They almost had it with 1.3...... but then they went 10 kilometers back again. i dont want to say its all epics fault, im sure they want to keep their players and want that they have fun but in this point they flopped. esp for skilled players.

To come back to the thread.
I also agree that there are always fucking suspense server. the reason is like chrisaw said that it is the most played vctf map and multiplay wants that their servers are in use all the time... so they set it on suspense. the problem is that many skilled players (for example all dark members(or almost all)) dont like suspense anymore cause it is overplayed and camper hell and so on... i dont want to say things we/you already know.  but also thats no problem for me... let them play suspense ... just let them play.

but where i dont close my eyes is that there are no non-suspense only servers. here are some :

1.jolt ---- good server, 1.3, 6 standard maps----> best in my opinion atm

2.russian servers: unplayable for europeans

3.multiplay sus-onlys: get or got boring after a while

4.our server, not often in use yet

5.epic 32 player server: is ok but 32 are too much and titanmode sucks

6.multiplay 'all stock maps': good but as soon as noobs or i call them suspense only players see in their serverlist MULTIPLAY then they all join it and vote all the time just suspense.... then im out


the last server i told you (number 6) is very good, playable and all but then multiplay should remove suspense
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« Reply #32 on: Fri 22.05.2009 20:37:16 »


- overclock: does it still exist?


yes, but there is no map vote (necro only)

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« Reply #33 on: Fri 22.05.2009 22:01:11 »

Ye i agree with you splitter... when there are map votes on mulitplay its always suspense only players voting for suspense all the time so its kinder pointless introducing multiplay servers with all stock maps unless they took suspense off.. but then i think they would be empty...

All im saying is that multiplay want people to go to there servers so have suspense only servers to advertise there name... they have had all stock maps on and obviously the servers havn't been used so they take them off...

in my opinion maybe epic should have more servers themselves so could be a few epic 3/4 18 player with no titans... but because the titans are a new feature they want them to be added :)
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« Reply #34 on: Fri 22.05.2009 22:17:16 »

This was about Servers and their maps, lets keep it about that now please.

_Dark_ Forums seem to be the center of all arguments lately, it's like a hub for everything that goes wrong in UT3 world atm.

Yeah because ppl like you are in the forum...

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« Reply #35 on: Fri 22.05.2009 22:25:07 »

the only reason why it gets like this is because people post stuff about me in this forum... and its iritating :(

if people have problems with me in the future then visit www.c2clan.darkbb.uk

it has nothing to do with dark so i dont understand why its posted here :D
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« Reply #36 on: Fri 22.05.2009 23:11:03 »

Ye i agree with you splitter... when there are map votes on mulitplay its always suspense only players voting for suspense all the time so its kinder pointless introducing multiplay servers with all stock maps unless they took suspense off.. but then i think they would be empty...

no they wouldnt be empty, thats the point. they just have to give us the info that they are set on kargo corruption, sand, necro, containment and rails. where is the sense if they try it one week but no one of us knows that? how shall i notice that its an non-suspense server? thats the point. on all the posts here, in epic forums and where ever, they see who wants such a server and that it is a huge number of players and that their server also as a non-sus-server would be full everyday.

it would be the new jolt server.... full everyday

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« Reply #37 on: Fri 22.05.2009 23:15:47 »

I remember good times when we had Jonestown server, where all good VCTF players were playing every day. You will barely meet any n00b in there :)
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« Reply #38 on: Fri 22.05.2009 23:41:39 »

It seems something has been changed!!

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OK, had a discussion over this.

Epics servers will stay as is, as they're their servers.
This gives you the option to play with Titans and all stock maps.

Multiplay ones will change to the following:

Multiplay vCTF #1: All stock maps (No voting)

Multiplay vCTF #2: All stock maps (Voting)

Multiplay vCTF #3: Popular maps (Voting)
- Sandstorm, Supsence, Stranded, Rails, Necropolis, Corruption

Multiplay vCTF #4: Stock and Custom maps (Voting)

Multiplay vCTF #5: Suspence Only

These servers will all be updated when i get around to it, and whilst not, or trying to to interrupt any games in progress. Hopefully most will be done tonight/tomorrow morning.
http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?p=26442075#post26442075

I have quickly checked it and it seems to get better and better.
I'm going to eat something and then I will look into the Multiplay vCTF servers.

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« Reply #39 on: Fri 22.05.2009 23:44:36 »

I spoke to blizzard, and as nightmare already posted, he made the changes i suggested.

Im not sure if the player count suggestion was made, but be happy it is done.
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